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		<title>By: How to Write a Really Good Research Paper &#171; Successful Researcher</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-21626</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Write a Really Good Research Paper &#171; Successful Researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but can be of interest for other scientists too) at the Secret Blogging Seminar, here and here at the blog of Michael Nielsen, at this post at the Backreaction blog, and at this article by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but can be of interest for other scientists too) at the Secret Blogging Seminar, here and here at the blog of Michael Nielsen, at this post at the Backreaction blog, and at this article by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-18990</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - That&#039;s a great phrase.  Markets, of course, use prices as signals to allow us to determine when we have a comparative advantage in solving some problem.  So they can be a great mechanism for manufacturing serendipity.  It&#039;d be nice to have tools which combined the best of open source and the best of markets.  The Matlab programming competition has something of that flavour - open source, but with a clear signalling mechanism (the score).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; That&#8217;s a great phrase.  Markets, of course, use prices as signals to allow us to determine when we have a comparative advantage in solving some problem.  So they can be a great mechanism for manufacturing serendipity.  It&#8217;d be nice to have tools which combined the best of open source and the best of markets.  The Matlab programming competition has something of that flavour &#8211; open source, but with a clear signalling mechanism (the score).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-18987</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Every working scientist recognizes this type of
&gt; fortuitous serendipitous interaction. The problem
&gt; is that they occur too rarely.

I coined the phrase &quot;manufactured serendipity&quot; years ago to suggest that serendipity is, in fact, too important to leave to chance.

We can&#039;t actually cause serendipity to happen, but we can absolutely create environments that make it a lot more likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Every working scientist recognizes this type of<br />
&gt; fortuitous serendipitous interaction. The problem<br />
&gt; is that they occur too rarely.</p>
<p>I coined the phrase &#8220;manufactured serendipity&#8221; years ago to suggest that serendipity is, in fact, too important to leave to chance.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t actually cause serendipity to happen, but we can absolutely create environments that make it a lot more likely.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sidles</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-17705</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sidles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael says: &quot;I was just looking for online examples using an open source style approach. The Manhattan Project is certainly a great example ...&quot;

Michael, one of the regrettable ironies of the Manhattan Project is that its science is now (almost) completely open, yet its &lt;i&gt;organizational&lt;/i&gt; history remains classified.

For example, a key document is the February 1945 memorandum from project engineer Willam &quot;Deak&quot; Parsons titled &lt;i&gt;&quot;&#039;Homestretch&#039; Measures&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.  This document has never been declassified (although &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/library/correspondence/oppenheimer-robert/corr_oppenheimer_1944-10-06.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the correspondence leading up to it&lt;/a&gt; is open).

This is regrettable, as many of the organizational principles that were conceived during the Manhattan Project are proving---in the long run---to be subtler, and have broader and farther-reaching effects, even than the weapons themselves.

This is *not* to hold up the Manhattan Project as a laudable exemplar.  The point is the opposite---some of these mistakes we should not make twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael says: &#8220;I was just looking for online examples using an open source style approach. The Manhattan Project is certainly a great example &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael, one of the regrettable ironies of the Manhattan Project is that its science is now (almost) completely open, yet its <i>organizational</i> history remains classified.</p>
<p>For example, a key document is the February 1945 memorandum from project engineer Willam &#8220;Deak&#8221; Parsons titled <i>&#8220;&#8216;Homestretch&#8217; Measures&#8221;</i>.  This document has never been declassified (although <a href="http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/library/correspondence/oppenheimer-robert/corr_oppenheimer_1944-10-06.htm" rel="nofollow">the correspondence leading up to it</a> is open).</p>
<p>This is regrettable, as many of the organizational principles that were conceived during the Manhattan Project are proving&#8212;in the long run&#8212;to be subtler, and have broader and farther-reaching effects, even than the weapons themselves.</p>
<p>This is *not* to hold up the Manhattan Project as a laudable exemplar.  The point is the opposite&#8212;some of these mistakes we should not make twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-17610</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - Thanks.  You&#039;re right that open-source versions of these would be very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; Thanks.  You&#8217;re right that open-source versions of these would be very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,
there are links to few tools for literature based discovery here( in the fields of biology,medicine):
http://arrowsmith.psych.uic.edu/arrowsmith_uic/tools.html

but i think what could be very usefull is a open source based system , that could-
1. be used in varied areas
2. be improved , because current systems do need improvements</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,<br />
there are links to few tools for literature based discovery here( in the fields of biology,medicine):<br />
<a href="http://arrowsmith.psych.uic.edu/arrowsmith_uic/tools.html" rel="nofollow">http://arrowsmith.psych.uic.edu/arrowsmith_uic/tools.html</a></p>
<p>but i think what could be very usefull is a open source based system , that could-<br />
1. be used in varied areas<br />
2. be improved , because current systems do need improvements</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-17518</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - I was just looking for online examples using an open source style approach.  The Manhattan Project is certainly a great example, offline - bring a large fraction of the world&#039;s best scientists into one place, and give them a common goal!  I&#039;m not so sure about the human genome project - I need to look into it more.

In regard to your other comments, about some people not being well suited to working in the open, I completely agree.  Some difficulties will be obviated in the near future, by better tools, but others are more intrinsic.  I&#039;m particularly fascinated by the problem of the creative individual who really needs their space.  For largely routine problems, I suspect they&#039;ll simply be outcompeted by others taking a more open appraoch.  If they are working on a big nonroutine problem, though, that may not be so true.  Grothendieck has a wonderful quote about the importance of solitude in doing the best work.   But I can&#039;t find it online right now, and I&#039;ve got to run...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; I was just looking for online examples using an open source style approach.  The Manhattan Project is certainly a great example, offline &#8211; bring a large fraction of the world&#8217;s best scientists into one place, and give them a common goal!  I&#8217;m not so sure about the human genome project &#8211; I need to look into it more.</p>
<p>In regard to your other comments, about some people not being well suited to working in the open, I completely agree.  Some difficulties will be obviated in the near future, by better tools, but others are more intrinsic.  I&#8217;m particularly fascinated by the problem of the creative individual who really needs their space.  For largely routine problems, I suspect they&#8217;ll simply be outcompeted by others taking a more open appraoch.  If they are working on a big nonroutine problem, though, that may not be so true.  Grothendieck has a wonderful quote about the importance of solitude in doing the best work.   But I can&#8217;t find it online right now, and I&#8217;ve got to run&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-17517</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - I don&#039;t have a short answer.  I might attempt a long answer as a post on another day - it&#039;s a really interesting question.  Let me add to the list of problems you mention:

- fear that disclosure of research-related questions will lead to scooping.  This reduces the number of questions that are asked.

- poor community design.  It&#039;s telling that the discussion on many scientific blogs is significantly more vibrant than in many journal forums.  In a healthy open source forum the discussion can be at another level still.  There&#039;s enormous differences, though, in how those three types of communities are built, and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s so a priori surprising that two succeed, and the other hasn&#039;t, yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; I don&#8217;t have a short answer.  I might attempt a long answer as a post on another day &#8211; it&#8217;s a really interesting question.  Let me add to the list of problems you mention:</p>
<p>- fear that disclosure of research-related questions will lead to scooping.  This reduces the number of questions that are asked.</p>
<p>- poor community design.  It&#8217;s telling that the discussion on many scientific blogs is significantly more vibrant than in many journal forums.  In a healthy open source forum the discussion can be at another level still.  There&#8217;s enormous differences, though, in how those three types of communities are built, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s so a priori surprising that two succeed, and the other hasn&#8217;t, yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/connecting-scientists-to-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-17515</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - Thanks for linking to that report, it looks like a very useful resource.  Have you used Illumin8?  Any comments?  Looks like you need to use if from an organization that has a subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; Thanks for linking to that report, it looks like a very useful resource.  Have you used Illumin8?  Any comments?  Looks like you need to use if from an organization that has a subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nielsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gavin - Thanks for the pointers.  What I&#039;m looking for is examples of significant scientific discoveries that occurred through open source style techniques.  I know of a few examples that come close, but no really killer example.  If you know of such an example it&#039;d be great to hear of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin &#8211; Thanks for the pointers.  What I&#8217;m looking for is examples of significant scientific discoveries that occurred through open source style techniques.  I know of a few examples that come close, but no really killer example.  If you know of such an example it&#8217;d be great to hear of it!</p>
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