{"id":187,"date":"2005-04-01T09:03:14","date_gmt":"2005-03-31T23:03:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/?p=187"},"modified":"2005-04-01T09:03:14","modified_gmt":"2005-03-31T23:03:14","slug":"the-fundamental-importance-of-emergence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/the-fundamental-importance-of-emergence\/","title":{"rendered":"The fundamental importance of emergence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ben Powell, guest blogging at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.illuminatingscience.org\/?p=185\">Illuminating Science<\/a>, writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nRecently I had a rather interest discussion with Andrew White.  [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The discussion\/argument\/whatever started out about the physics curriculum at UQ but quickly moved on to a discussion about what where the truly original contributions to physics in the twentieth century. Andrew claimed that there where only two. The theory of quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity. For the record I should say that many (perhaps most) other physicists would agree with Andrew. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t. I think that the existence of emergent phenomena is equally fundamental and probably more important than either quantum mechanics or relativity.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Working with the criteria of beng fundamental and important, rather than &#8220;truly original&#8221;, which I don&#8217;t understand, I&#8217;d still disagree, because (a) emergence wasn&#8217;t discovered in the 20th century; and (b) it&#8217;s not an empirical discovery, as such, but rather a property of many simple rule systems, not just the laws of physics.  I&#8217;d place it more in the category of mathematics than of physics.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, I can&#8217;t think of any specific example of an emergent phenomena that rivals the discovery of quantum mechanics or relativity in importance.<\/p>\n<p>None of which, of course, is to say that the fact of emergence is not fantastically important and interesting.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nLet me illustrate emergence with a very old example &#8211; time\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s arrow. The so-called fundamental laws of physics (i.e. quantum mechanics and relativity) do not care about which way you run time. That is if you think of the world as a movie then, if I played the movie backwards everything should, according to these \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcfundamental\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 laws, be the same. Clearly your everyday experience contradicts this prediction (you can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t make an omelet without breaking some eggs &#8211; but you certainly can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t make an egg by \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcun-breaking\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 an omelet). So &#8211; if science is to be based of empirical evidence shouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t we reject these \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcfundamental\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 laws.<\/p>\n<p>The answer is that when we many particles acting together the begin to behave in new ways that we could never expect from studying a single particle. Such new behaviours are called emergent behaviours. In this case the emergent property is called entropy. Entropy is a measure of disorder &#8211; the more disordered a system is the higher its entropy. Something given the rather pompous name of \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc the second law of thermodynamics\u00e2\u20ac\u02dc says that the entropy of the universe can never decrease. That is the universe as a whole is always getting more disorder. This is easy to misunderstand. Small parts of the universe can decrease their entropy, but then the entropy of the rest of the universe has to increase, so that the total entropy of the universe does not decrease. Actually as you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re sitting here reading this your body is busy decreasing its entropy, however all the body heat that is following out of you is disordering the rest of the universe and<br \/>\nincreasing the entropy of the rest of the universe.<\/p>\n<p>However, it is important to realise that when physicists first discovered entropy they did not derive it from a \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcfundamental\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 theory, instead they found that, in they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re theories on many particles they had to include entropy to make the theory agree with nature. This century we found that when classical (or Newtonian) mechanics was replaced by quantum mechanics we still need to worry about the role entropy plays in large systems. In fact we can go further than that. We do not know how to derive the second law of thermodynamics from any \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcfundamental\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 theory. And yet we believe it to be true. Einstein went so far as to say that \u00e2\u20ac\u0153it is the only physical theory of universal content which I am convinced, that within the framework of applicability of its basic concepts will never be overthrown.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d So what made him so sure of this?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Ed Jaynes&#8217; derivation of thermodynamics, the general applicability of the second law is a trivial consequence of adopting a Bayesian view of probabilities, together with the reversibility of the fundamental dynamical laws. <a href=\"http:\/\/info.phys.unm.edu\/~caves\/thoughts2.2.pdf\">Carl Caves<\/a> has a nice explanation of this point of view.  (The original papers by Jaynes are in the 1957 Physical Review).<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not entirely sure this approach gets at the whole physical content of the second law, but if you believe Einstein might have entertained similar thoughts, then it does give an appealing answer to the question &#8220;Why was Einstein so certain of the general applicability of the second law, even in new physical theories&#8221;.  It&#8217;d be interesting to look through his other writings to see if there&#8217;s any evidence he did or did not hold these sorts of views.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe important thing to understand is the second law of thermodynamics is true regardless of the details of the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcfundamental\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 theory &#8211; be that classical physics, quantum physics or some future theory that we do not know about yet. Therefore Bob Laughlin (who won the 1998 physics Noble prize) and David Pines have called principles such as the second law of thermodynamics \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchigher organising principles\u00e2\u20ac\u2122.<\/p>\n<p>The second law of thermodynamics is just the best know of these \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchigher organising principles\u00e2\u20ac\u2122, we know know that many physical phenomena can only be described in terms of such \u00e2\u20ac\u02dchigher organising principles\u00e2\u20ac\u2122. Examples include superconductivity, Bose-Einstein condensation, the quantum Hall effect, protein folding, most of chemistry, all of biology and life to name a few.<\/p>\n<p>Finally we come to my last point. There is a general acceptance in science, which I must point out is not shared by many philosophers, of a reductionist world view. That is to say the view that we can materials physics in terms of particle physics, chemistry in terms of materials physics, biology in terms of chemistry, psychology in terms of biology and the humanities in terms of psychology. It seems to have become increasingly clear, over the course of the twentieth century that, if this is true then these \u00e2\u20ac\u02dcexplanations\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 can only be made in terms of higher organising principles because all of the things begin explained are emergent phenomena.<\/p>\n<p>Remember more is different.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ben Powell, guest blogging at Illuminating Science, writes: Recently I had a rather interest discussion with Andrew White. [&#8230;] The discussion\/argument\/whatever started out about the physics curriculum at UQ but quickly moved on to a discussion about what where the truly original contributions to physics in the twentieth century. Andrew claimed that there where only&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/the-fundamental-importance-of-emergence\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The fundamental importance of emergence<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-187","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-3","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=187"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=187"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=187"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=187"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}