{"id":431,"date":"2008-06-10T07:46:31","date_gmt":"2008-06-10T11:46:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/?p=431"},"modified":"2008-06-10T07:46:31","modified_gmt":"2008-06-10T11:46:31","slug":"where-do-people-find-the-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/where-do-people-find-the-time\/","title":{"rendered":"Where do people find the time?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An excerpt from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shirky.com\/herecomeseverybody\/2008\/04\/looking-for-the-mouse.html\">Clay Shirky&#8217;s superb talk about social media and participation<\/a> (c.f. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boingboing.net\/2002\/02\/03\/too-much-time-on-his.html\">Cory Doctorow&#8217;s old rant on a similar subject<\/a>, via <a href=\"http:\/\/sachachua.com\/wp\/2008\/05\/31\/too-much-time-on-her-hands\/\">Sacha<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I started telling her [the TV producer] about the Wikipedia article on Pluto. You may remember that Pluto got kicked out of the planet club a couple of years ago, so all of a sudden there was all of this activity on Wikipedia. The talk pages light up, people are editing the article like mad, and the whole community is in an ruckus&#8211;&#8220;How should we characterize this change in Pluto&#8217;s status?&#8221; And a little bit at a time they move the article&#8211;fighting offstage all the while&#8211;from, &#8220;Pluto is the ninth planet,&#8221; to &#8220;Pluto is an odd-shaped rock with an odd-shaped orbit at the edge of the solar system.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So I tell her all this stuff, and I think, &#8220;Okay, we&#8217;re going to have a conversation about authority or social construction or whatever.&#8221; That wasn&#8217;t her question. She heard this story and she shook her head and said, &#8220;Where do people find the time?&#8221; That was her question. And I just kind of snapped. And I said, &#8220;No one who works in TV gets to ask that question. You know where the time comes from. It comes from the cognitive surplus you&#8217;ve been masking for 50 years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So how big is that surplus? So if you take Wikipedia as a kind of unit, all of Wikipedia, the whole project&#8211;every page, every edit, every talk page, every line of code, in every language that Wikipedia exists in&#8211;that represents something like the cumulation of 100 million hours of human thought. I worked this out with Martin Wattenberg at IBM; it&#8217;s a back-of-the-envelope calculation, but it&#8217;s the right order of magnitude, about 100 million hours of thought.<\/p>\n<p>And television watching? Two hundred billion hours, in the U.S. alone, every year. Put another way, now that we have a unit, that&#8217;s 2,000 Wikipedia projects a year spent watching television. Or put still another way, in the U.S., we spend 100 million hours every weekend, just watching the ads. This is a pretty big surplus.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s an awfully big space for people to work on collaborative projects that are fun, social, and intrinsically meaningful.<\/p>\n<p>(With that said, something I&#8217;ve often wondered is why people apparently spend so much more time watching television at home than they do socializing.)<\/p>\n<p>Shirky&#8217;s talk is well worth watching, not just reading.  Here&#8217;s Part I (ignore the opening music, it gets better):<br \/>\n<object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/AyoNHIl-QLQ&#038;hl=en\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/AyoNHIl-QLQ&#038;hl=en\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Part II:<br \/>\n<object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/jNCblGv0zjU&#038;hl=en\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/jNCblGv0zjU&#038;hl=en\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An excerpt from Clay Shirky&#8217;s superb talk about social media and participation (c.f. Cory Doctorow&#8217;s old rant on a similar subject, via Sacha): I started telling her [the TV producer] about the Wikipedia article on Pluto. You may remember that Pluto got kicked out of the planet club a couple of years ago, so all&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/where-do-people-find-the-time\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Where do people find the time?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-431","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/431","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=431"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/431\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=431"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=431"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michaelnielsen.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=431"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}