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=== Issues with LFP === | === Issues with LFP === | ||
There appear to be three issues related to the use of the characterization of P in terms of first order logic, an ordering and a least fixed point operator. All of these are discussed in the [http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/issues-in-the-proof-that-p%E2%89%A0np/ Lipton/Regan post] | |||
# Is the lack of ordering in the logical structures used to define the LFP structure a problem ? On the surface, it appears to be, since it is not known whether FO(LFP) can be used to characterize P without ordering. | |||
# The paper requires that a certain predicate in the FO(LFP) formula be unary, and forces this by expanding neighborhoods and constructing k-tuples of parameters to act as single parameters. It is not clear how this affects the arguments about the propagation of local neighborhoods. | |||
# Does the logical vocabulary created to express the LFP operation suffice to capture all P-time operations ? | |||
=== Issues with d1RSP === | === Issues with d1RSP === |
Revision as of 23:51, 9 August 2010
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The paper
- Vinay Deolalikar's web page
- First draft (date?)
- Second draft (date?)
Proof strategy
(Excerpted from this comment of Ken Regan.)
Deolalikar has constructed a vocabulary V such that:
- Satisfiability of a k-CNF formula can be expressed by NP-queries over V—in particular, by an NP-query Q over V that ties in to algorithmic properties.
- All P-queries over V can be expressed by FO+LFP formulas over V.
- NP = P implies Q is expressible by an LFP+FO formula over V.
- If Q is expressible by an LFP formula over V, then by the algorithmic tie-in, we get a certain kind of polynomial-time LFP-based algorithm.
- Such an algorithm, however, contradicts known statistical properties of randomized k-SAT when k >= 9.
Possible issues
Issues with LFP
There appear to be three issues related to the use of the characterization of P in terms of first order logic, an ordering and a least fixed point operator. All of these are discussed in the Lipton/Regan post
- Is the lack of ordering in the logical structures used to define the LFP structure a problem ? On the surface, it appears to be, since it is not known whether FO(LFP) can be used to characterize P without ordering.
- The paper requires that a certain predicate in the FO(LFP) formula be unary, and forces this by expanding neighborhoods and constructing k-tuples of parameters to act as single parameters. It is not clear how this affects the arguments about the propagation of local neighborhoods.
- Does the logical vocabulary created to express the LFP operation suffice to capture all P-time operations ?
Issues with d1RSP
Barriers
Any P vs NP proof must deal with the three known barriers described below. The concerns around this paper have not yet reached this stage yet.
Relativization
Natural proofs
Algebraization
Terminology
- Least fixed point (LFP)
Online reactions
Theory blogs
- P ≠ NP Greg Baker, Greg and Kat’s blog, August 7 2010
- A proof that P is not equal to NP? Richard Lipton, Godel's lost letter and P=NP, August 8 2010
- On the Deolalikar proof: Crowdsourcing the discussion ? Suresh Venkatasubramanian, The Geomblog, August 9 2010
- Putting my money where my mouth isn’t Scott Aaronson, Shtetl-Optimized, August 9 2010
- That P ne NP proof- whats up with that? Bill Gasarch, Computational Complexity, August 9 2010
- Issues In The Proof That P≠NP Richard Lipton and Ken Regan, Godel's lost letter and P=NP, August 9 2010
Other
- Twitter Lance Fortnow - August 8 2010
- Google Buzz Terence Tao - August 9 2010