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* ?!? wikisysop whats the problem with the [[Jun Fukuyama's P≠NP Paper]] link?
* ?!? wikisysop whats the problem with the [[Jun Fukuyama's P≠NP Paper]] link?
"Additional links are very welcome." ... yeah right. --[[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/9/2012


:The section is entitled "Discussions about Polymath", and the statement "Additional links are very welcome" refers to additional links about the Polymath Project, not arbitrary links.  The page on Fukuyama's paper is not a discussion about the Polymath Project.  More generally, at present I don't see how Fukuyama's paper is related to the Polymath Project.  [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 00:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:[earlier conversation]


::it was put iin the section "polymath like projects" already containing a link to evaluations of the Deolalikar proof, a now apparently defunct project after 2.5 yrs. isnt this proof claim similar? [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012
:Returning to this conversation after a couple of days of other commitments intervened.  Note that I'm now signed in as [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]], which seems more appropriate than my WikiSysop login. [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


:::It's not relevant to that section, either, unless there's a Polymath-like proof evaluation going on, like that which went on at Lipton's blog for Deolalikar's attempt.  I'm not aware of any such large-scale effort. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 02:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:To the issue: it wasn't at all clear that you were proposing a collaborative evaluation of his proof.  Now that you have, I quite agree that it'd be good to have a sensible process for proposing problems on the wiki. At the moment those have mostly been going on the page [[Other proposed projects]], which is linked prominently on the main page.  At present I don't see a problem with putting this proposal on that page. What do you think? [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


::::oh! apparently mistakenly thought that the pt of polymath was to ''promote'' and ''facilitate'' such efforts even at the seed stage! ok fine, how many comments on a blog, and/or by whom would pass the ''required threshold''? or do you "know it when you see it"? [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012
:Over the longer run (and independent of this particular proposal), there is a real issue, which is that we need some better process for deciding what's a reasonable way of proposing projects, which is both open enough, but also doesn't waste people's time on uninteresting proposals.  This seems like a tricky balance to get right.  In an ideal world, wiki software would make it so users only saw things which will be of interest to them.  Unfortunately, we don't yet live in that world. [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


:::::Do you agree that it's not currently relevant to the wiki?  It could perhaps become relevant in the future, but at the moment I don't see how anyone could reasonably argue that it's relevant. [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 02:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
== Misc ==
 
::::::am implicitly proposing via my edits that a collaborative evaluation of his proof be initiated by the online TCS/math community where such an effort does not yet apparently exist. that can happen on blogs, not on this site, if that is the restricted policy of this site. is that off charter to initiate/propose that here? isnt it natural/reasonable to use this site for ''announcements/proposals''? why are you implicitly restricting to "large-scale"? there seem to be small-scale or many dormant projects listed with low-to-none participation so far.. [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012
 
:::::::[[user:vzn|vzn]] - you can use four tildes in a row to have your name autosigned. [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::Returning to this conversation after a couple of days of other commitments intervened.  Note that I'm now signed in as [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]], which seems more appropriate than my WikiSysop login. [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::To the issue: it wasn't at all clear that you were proposing a collaborative evaluation of his proof.  Now that you have, I quite agree that it'd be good to have a sensible process for proposing problems on the wiki. At the moment those have mostly been going on the page [[Other proposed projects]], which is linked prominently on the main page.  At present I don't see a problem with putting this proposal on that page.  What do you think? [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::Over the longer run (and independent of this particular proposal), there is a real issue, which is that we need some better process for deciding what's a reasonable way of proposing projects, which is both open enough, but also doesn't waste people's time on uninteresting proposals.  This seems like a tricky balance to get right.  In an ideal world, wiki software would make it so users only saw things which will be of interest to them.  Unfortunately, we don't yet live in that world. [[User:MichaelNielsen|MichaelNielsen]] 01:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


* could someone fix the editing help link on the bottom of the wiki edit page & on home page? isnt there a built in help page for this wiki software? it currently leads to [http://michaelnielsen.org/polymath1/index.php?title=Help:Contents empty page]. not very user friendly eh? in particular is there a tag that substitutes in the current time for discussion edits? [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012
* could someone fix the editing help link on the bottom of the wiki edit page & on home page? isnt there a built in help page for this wiki software? it currently leads to [http://michaelnielsen.org/polymath1/index.php?title=Help:Contents empty page]. not very user friendly eh? in particular is there a tag that substitutes in the current time for discussion edits? [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012


* idea: some kind of voting/weighting/ranking system for prioritizing/sorting projects and gauging user interest/support [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012
* idea: some kind of voting/weighting/ranking system for prioritizing/sorting projects and gauging user interest/support [[user:vzn|vzn]] 12/10/2012

Revision as of 09:11, 28 December 2012

It would be cool to have a polymath logo to replace "set $wgLogo to the URL path...".

Done. A logo is being trialled. MichaelNielsen 00:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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[earlier conversation]
Returning to this conversation after a couple of days of other commitments intervened. Note that I'm now signed in as MichaelNielsen, which seems more appropriate than my WikiSysop login. MichaelNielsen 01:02, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
To the issue: it wasn't at all clear that you were proposing a collaborative evaluation of his proof. Now that you have, I quite agree that it'd be good to have a sensible process for proposing problems on the wiki. At the moment those have mostly been going on the page Other proposed projects, which is linked prominently on the main page. At present I don't see a problem with putting this proposal on that page. What do you think? MichaelNielsen 01:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Over the longer run (and independent of this particular proposal), there is a real issue, which is that we need some better process for deciding what's a reasonable way of proposing projects, which is both open enough, but also doesn't waste people's time on uninteresting proposals. This seems like a tricky balance to get right. In an ideal world, wiki software would make it so users only saw things which will be of interest to them. Unfortunately, we don't yet live in that world. MichaelNielsen 01:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Misc

  • could someone fix the editing help link on the bottom of the wiki edit page & on home page? isnt there a built in help page for this wiki software? it currently leads to empty page. not very user friendly eh? in particular is there a tag that substitutes in the current time for discussion edits? vzn 12/10/2012
  • idea: some kind of voting/weighting/ranking system for prioritizing/sorting projects and gauging user interest/support vzn 12/10/2012
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